Moot The Point


An Open Question for All Atheists.
March 5, 2008, 8:30 pm
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I’m taking a page out of the play-book on another blog that’s led to some fascinating discussions.  I thought it might be interesting to turn the tables so to speak and see if an age old dilemma can be resolved in a different way.

Most dictionaries define athiesm as a positive denial of the existence of God.

However my experience has been that atheist’s often establish their beliefs by pointing out the flaws in the alternatives.  My question is more in regards to independently establishing those ideas vs. concluding them on the basis that the alternative can’t be true.

I realize I’m asking a lot – and yes I know you can’t prove a negative – but are there positive reasons for your non-belief?  If so what are they?


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You phrase the question wrong. Atheists have all sorts of beliefs, and of course positive reasons for their beliefs. Atheists are not “non-believers”. It’s just that their beliefs (and they differ from one person to another) don’t include a “god” (whatever that means – and that differs from on theist to another).

So yes – we have positive reasons for our beliefs – you just have to deal with a specific belief (and a specific person holding that belief) to elucidate reasons.

Comment by Ken

I was afraid I’d done a poor job articulating what I’m looking for. And I realize that I’m asking for something that really isn’t fair. I’m asking atheist to prove a negative.

Let me try to rephrase my question.

What specifically is it for you, other than the arguments for God not being adequate, that convinces you to believe that there is no God? In other words suppose for a moment that the null hypothesis was “God exists”, how would you explain the antithesis of that statement?

I ask this question humbly because I completely realize that the burden of proof is on the theist. I’m just really curious if belief in no God is the result of inadequate reasons to believe or belief in no God is self-sustaining. I hope that makes some sense.

Comment by mootpoints

I’ve got to say, that other blog looks like a brilliant one. ;-)

As an atheist, I agree that we can not scientifically 100% DISPROVE the existance of god, just like we can not disprove 100% the existance of the tooth fairy, or santa, or the flying spaghetti monster, or tiny invisible elves living in refrigerators.
But when looking at the world around us, and the universe at large, we see that EVERYTHING can be explained solely by science, and there is no NEED for god.
Since by definition anything that could create the universe must be more complex than the universe the existance of this divine, supernatural, ultimately complex deity would be an extraordinary claim.
Atheists by and large are skeptical of all claims, and even more so with extraordinary claims. The saying “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” comes to mind here.

Since there is no need for a divinity to explain what we can see in the universe, and the claim of a deity is an extraordinary one, and there is no scientifically verifiable evidence of a deity, the skeptical, rational approach is to assume that there is no “god” until evidence comes to light to change that view.

While this does not “prove” atheism is correct, or that deism is “false”, it is how I and many other atheist look at the subject. It is also, in my view, the simplest explanation (and as I have mentioned before Occam’s Razor is an idea that I try to follow, since it generally leads down the right path).

I think this fits what you were looking for (not using negative views of the alternative to “prove” atheism, but giving an understanding of the atheist’s reasoning for their “belief” or lack there of.

Comment by Rodibidably

I’m baaaaack…

I an attempt to hopefully see from the the viewpoint of others, I’ve come up with a question to help me understand the believers view on the world.
http://potomac9499.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/a-question-for-believers-are-there-any-limits-to-your-faith/

Hopefully you can give me your thoughts and help me to understand the mind of a believer, just a bit better.

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